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I think there's a separate issue, one that Terry Tao expressed. It's the idea that those considering a career in mathematics may think twice. Imagine setting out to tackle a problem and spending many years working on it, only to find that some else used an advanced model to prove or disprove the conjecture you were working on. It is unfortunate for Buckmaster and Alpöge that OpenAI's attention was directed to their project because of rumors that N-S had been solved. I read somewhere that OpenAI may have used an unreleased advanced model to take the problem to completion. How can you compete with that? How are mathematicians going to have confidence using Codex and other commercially available tools, when unreleased frontier models may steal their thunder? It seems that every week there is a story of some unsolved problem that amateurs solve. Some long mysterious cipher that gets decoded. This is different from Hinton's prediction about radiologists. Their existential crisis is being played out right now. NASA scientists may not care, but mathematicians do. That's why they signed the Leiden Declaration.

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Thank you for this well articulated takedown of benchmark maxxing.

The research frontier of fluid dynamics has indeed long moved past the NS approximation, to handle applications where it’s not sufficient.

For example, there is a whole research program around using Renormalization Group methods to properly understand fluids from the particles up.

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